Leo07
11-01 04:25 PM
I think this will be viewed more as a blackmailing method than anything else.
Moreover, if you look at the history of past such movements( LOL ), this is 180 degrees inverse of those successful movements.
I'm a firm believer in GC success through lobbying.
Moreover, if you look at the history of past such movements( LOL ), this is 180 degrees inverse of those successful movements.
I'm a firm believer in GC success through lobbying.
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somegchuh
10-16 06:22 PM
I am stuck in namecheck too. With 485 filed in Feb '07 I am not sure if I qualify as a "namecheck victim" yet :-)
villamonte6100
11-02 02:25 PM
I thought people came here for economic reasons(mostly), now it looks like we cannot afford good property inn India and are not going back.
I think you got a very good point here.
If India is really good economically, people from all over the world would be going there and find job.
I think you got a very good point here.
If India is really good economically, people from all over the world would be going there and find job.
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vidyakulkarni
10-11 09:00 PM
Mine 3 years old approved H1b case status shows case reopened...pl help
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bobzibub
11-01 05:57 PM
What is this reverse brain drain ? there is no such thing - folks who are here are going to hang on tooth & nail to stay here come hell or high water - the only ones who are going back are the ones who have no other option.
If one shows more loyalty than that shown by that entity, then one is a fool. That entity could be a country, party, company, spouse.
Right now, one entity (US government) is not showing much interest in our condition. That level of loyalty should be reciprocated but no more.
If one shows more loyalty than that shown by that entity, then one is a fool. That entity could be a country, party, company, spouse.
Right now, one entity (US government) is not showing much interest in our condition. That level of loyalty should be reciprocated but no more.
CaliHoneB
04-09 12:29 PM
I just contributed $100 in addition to $100 for previous drive. I have a suggestion, we have some very successful enterpreneurs with same back ground like Vinod khosla , Sanjeev bhatia etc. Can we ask some contributions from them..
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franklin
07-17 06:12 PM
Help us carry on the fight! We've won a major battle, but its not over.
Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all!
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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Talk is cheap guys, put your money where your mouth is so we can continue fighting for us all!
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=25#HowToContribute
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msp1976
02-06 04:02 PM
How long will it probably take for China EB2 to move to August 2005? It's now in April 2005. Any idea?
Until EB3 ROW becomes current....
Until EB3 ROW becomes current....
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kumarc123
01-10 09:38 AM
I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .
There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .
Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .
Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
Where are the other senior leaders like
a) Walden Pond
b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .
The others even I have forgotten completely.
The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.
Precisely,
they ask me for monthly contributions and I ask them to hold something big, a rally or something first, as I was not July2007 filer. That's why I am stopping to come here now. To ask for contributions, IV must hold something big,
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mhathi
11-06 03:54 PM
In reality, many companies who have subsidiaries abroad can use L1 visa program. But H1B offers flexibility that is much desired by many companies. (It is very less abused compared to H1B). No numerical cap on L1B may not go well with many of us. But I am very +ve that the visas are not issued in anticipatory mode like H1B. And why do companies spend 5K if they do not want to get the worker here? Do they like waste money just like that?
Logically this highlights the real problem in the system - numerical caps. If the caps are not there and companies can get a visa-on demand, they will not spend 5K per visa on anticipatory mode. Because there is no need to do that.
So no system is perfect. We have to minimize abuse and act responsibly when it comes to sensitive issues like immigration...
I see only one problem in this logic! Many cases I know of, at least from the 2007 H1B fiasco, paid for the H1Bs through consulting companies FROM THEIR POCKETS. So to answer your question as to why companies would spend $5000 in anticipation, is that they don't. They take it from the applicant. (again I am not saying all do, but there are abusive companies that do).
No cap on visa numbers will never fly... No political environment will be conducive to bringing in unlimited foreign workers without any restrictions. L1 has no caps because it is very difficult to qualify for an L1 visa, as far as I know. If caps in H1 are removed, you can bet there will be severe restrictions imposed on other aspects of the program.
Logically this highlights the real problem in the system - numerical caps. If the caps are not there and companies can get a visa-on demand, they will not spend 5K per visa on anticipatory mode. Because there is no need to do that.
So no system is perfect. We have to minimize abuse and act responsibly when it comes to sensitive issues like immigration...
I see only one problem in this logic! Many cases I know of, at least from the 2007 H1B fiasco, paid for the H1Bs through consulting companies FROM THEIR POCKETS. So to answer your question as to why companies would spend $5000 in anticipation, is that they don't. They take it from the applicant. (again I am not saying all do, but there are abusive companies that do).
No cap on visa numbers will never fly... No political environment will be conducive to bringing in unlimited foreign workers without any restrictions. L1 has no caps because it is very difficult to qualify for an L1 visa, as far as I know. If caps in H1 are removed, you can bet there will be severe restrictions imposed on other aspects of the program.
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Macaca
11-12 01:11 PM
Grassley Is Off the Mark (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119465330149488684.html) Wall Street Journal, Nov 10, 2007
Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) apparently didn't read your "The Grassley Visa Tax "editorial of Nov. 2 ("Investing in America, Making Things Worse," letters to the editor, Nov. 8). His first two paragraphs made statements that were blatantly false. Spoken like a true politician.
No successful business hires an H-1B visa holder just to fire an American worker. Because of the shortage of trained and competent workers, high tech workers are paid the prevailing wage rates. Sen. Grassley is overlooking the term of the H-1B visas. No business wants to train a worker who will leave in a short time. Successful businesses are built on the expertise of long term experienced workers. H-1B workers are attractive because there are not skilled Americans available.
Sen. Grassley should consider the interests of the country as a whole instead of pandering to special interests and he should consider legislation to improve the performance of Americans instead of making false accusations to polish his image.
Claude Rumsey
Las Vegas
Sen. Charles Grassley (R., Iowa) apparently didn't read your "The Grassley Visa Tax "editorial of Nov. 2 ("Investing in America, Making Things Worse," letters to the editor, Nov. 8). His first two paragraphs made statements that were blatantly false. Spoken like a true politician.
No successful business hires an H-1B visa holder just to fire an American worker. Because of the shortage of trained and competent workers, high tech workers are paid the prevailing wage rates. Sen. Grassley is overlooking the term of the H-1B visas. No business wants to train a worker who will leave in a short time. Successful businesses are built on the expertise of long term experienced workers. H-1B workers are attractive because there are not skilled Americans available.
Sen. Grassley should consider the interests of the country as a whole instead of pandering to special interests and he should consider legislation to improve the performance of Americans instead of making false accusations to polish his image.
Claude Rumsey
Las Vegas
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bugsbunny
04-20 01:15 PM
I assume you've likely never studied in India though. An bachelor's degree in engineering is not very expensive, if you have good grades.
10 years back it would cost about $100-200 a year, if you qualified through a state ranking system.
i graduated more than 10 years ago...with an Engineering degree...i know about the $100-200 merit seats...which were extremely difficult to get. I could have gotten the merit seat in a lower ranked college but chose a better college. It applies to only the top 5% or less of the total applicants. You don't get to the top 5% without spending a small fortune in private coaching ...why... because your regular teachers hardly make an attempt to teach you well...and they are the same ones who make lot more money in private coaching.
Anyways even with the very little $100-200 "almost impossible to get" merit seats there are plenty of other expenses for engineering. This is out of the question if your family is not in lower middle class economically atleast.
10 years back it would cost about $100-200 a year, if you qualified through a state ranking system.
i graduated more than 10 years ago...with an Engineering degree...i know about the $100-200 merit seats...which were extremely difficult to get. I could have gotten the merit seat in a lower ranked college but chose a better college. It applies to only the top 5% or less of the total applicants. You don't get to the top 5% without spending a small fortune in private coaching ...why... because your regular teachers hardly make an attempt to teach you well...and they are the same ones who make lot more money in private coaching.
Anyways even with the very little $100-200 "almost impossible to get" merit seats there are plenty of other expenses for engineering. This is out of the question if your family is not in lower middle class economically atleast.
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ilwaiting
04-28 02:32 PM
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sammyb
10-12 05:10 PM
hey wawa...
That is so strange.....Our dates also match...I too got an email on 28th September ...this is so bizzare..,,have you received the notice from USCIS ?? Since you have an aproved GC it sounds even more bizzare ...please keep me posted of any developements and I will do the same ...
or may be a virus attack ... too coincidental to have sent notice on same day ...
my 1.9 cents ...
That is so strange.....Our dates also match...I too got an email on 28th September ...this is so bizzare..,,have you received the notice from USCIS ?? Since you have an aproved GC it sounds even more bizzare ...please keep me posted of any developements and I will do the same ...
or may be a virus attack ... too coincidental to have sent notice on same day ...
my 1.9 cents ...
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bestia
12-05 01:52 AM
Hi I've been a NC victim for almost 3 years. I have heard all kinds of speculations on the real reason behind USCIS/FBI decision,like the amount of the tax you pay, your political view, your education level,etc. all influence the result. Could that be true or it's just purely a bureaucratic backlog? Something interesting to think about I guess.
Oh, come on. I think situation is much more simple than that. I wonder if FBI really got ONE bad guy among H1b poor souls. FBI perfectly knows that it's just stupid to suspect a person who lived on same place for years, personally went to fingerprinting, submitted all kinda information about himself and humbly waiting for GC in being some "threat".
Because of that FBI considers us "low priority", simply - they don't care about us. But the law requires them to check us, so those who got "no match" automatically pass without any human intervention. But those who by some reason "matched" are awaiting for some FBI dude to push couple of buttons on his computer. But since FBI dude will be first considering more important things to do, those couple of "button presses" might take couple of years.
This is how I see it. If that's true, then ironically if some of H1bs would be involved in drug trafficking, prostitution or would really posses any threat - namechecks would be going really quick.
Oh, come on. I think situation is much more simple than that. I wonder if FBI really got ONE bad guy among H1b poor souls. FBI perfectly knows that it's just stupid to suspect a person who lived on same place for years, personally went to fingerprinting, submitted all kinda information about himself and humbly waiting for GC in being some "threat".
Because of that FBI considers us "low priority", simply - they don't care about us. But the law requires them to check us, so those who got "no match" automatically pass without any human intervention. But those who by some reason "matched" are awaiting for some FBI dude to push couple of buttons on his computer. But since FBI dude will be first considering more important things to do, those couple of "button presses" might take couple of years.
This is how I see it. If that's true, then ironically if some of H1bs would be involved in drug trafficking, prostitution or would really posses any threat - namechecks would be going really quick.
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saileshdude
03-31 10:29 AM
Hello,
Here is my case trail
worked with employer A from June 2005 on h1b visa.
Employer A applied for GC under PERM EB2 with PD - March, 2nd 2006 - labor approved in a couple of weeks
Employer A applied for i 140 in June 2006 and got approved in July 2006
Filed for i 485 in July 2008 never received FP notices
Project got over in last week of February 2008 and unable to find new project.
I switched jobs in last week of April 2008 using EAD - using AC21
Sent AC21 letter to USCIS in July 2008 about job change.
Employer A requested 140 revoke in August 2008.
Spouse got FP notice in August 2008 whereas I (primary) got NOID asking for new employment details.
Responded to NOID in a timely manner and on August 25th, 2008 - my status changed to "Response received - case processing resumed"
In Jan 2009 I got my FP notice.
In Jan 2009 - I travelled using AP and got back fine.
In March 2009 - I got a denial notice saying "485 is denied because 140 was revoked on August 2008. No appeal only MTR" - thisletter comes from a different officer id than the one who sent the NOID.
My question to UN and other gurus. Does it have anything to do with a changed interpretation? My lawyer says "This is a training issue - the new officer did not know about AC21 and as soon as he/she saw 140 as revoked - just ignored your other details on the case and issued a denial notice. This is very common and can be resolved using MTR"
Your lawyer is probably correct. This has to do with IO who are not aware of AC21 laws. But make sure your employer did not have any issues with DOL, USCIS in responding to RFEs related to other employees like H1 RFE, ability to pay , etc which may be used against your application.
Here is my case trail
worked with employer A from June 2005 on h1b visa.
Employer A applied for GC under PERM EB2 with PD - March, 2nd 2006 - labor approved in a couple of weeks
Employer A applied for i 140 in June 2006 and got approved in July 2006
Filed for i 485 in July 2008 never received FP notices
Project got over in last week of February 2008 and unable to find new project.
I switched jobs in last week of April 2008 using EAD - using AC21
Sent AC21 letter to USCIS in July 2008 about job change.
Employer A requested 140 revoke in August 2008.
Spouse got FP notice in August 2008 whereas I (primary) got NOID asking for new employment details.
Responded to NOID in a timely manner and on August 25th, 2008 - my status changed to "Response received - case processing resumed"
In Jan 2009 I got my FP notice.
In Jan 2009 - I travelled using AP and got back fine.
In March 2009 - I got a denial notice saying "485 is denied because 140 was revoked on August 2008. No appeal only MTR" - thisletter comes from a different officer id than the one who sent the NOID.
My question to UN and other gurus. Does it have anything to do with a changed interpretation? My lawyer says "This is a training issue - the new officer did not know about AC21 and as soon as he/she saw 140 as revoked - just ignored your other details on the case and issued a denial notice. This is very common and can be resolved using MTR"
Your lawyer is probably correct. This has to do with IO who are not aware of AC21 laws. But make sure your employer did not have any issues with DOL, USCIS in responding to RFEs related to other employees like H1 RFE, ability to pay , etc which may be used against your application.
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sirinme
06-24 05:08 PM
I would recommend comprehensive coverage plans for parents. As far as I could tell, there is only one website that sells coverage with pre-existing conditions rider (KV Rao's India Health Network), but that is a limited coverage plan. They have daily limits on most of the hospital charges, but the hospitals usually bill you 3,4 times those daily limits, so you end up paying for the difference out of your pocket. I know this, because I have had first hand experience for my father not too long ago.
So always go for comprehensive plans even though they are more expensive if the parents have any kind of health issues (given their age, who wouldn't !?). Comprehensive plans do not have daily limits - you are only limited by the policy maximum. You are looking at at least 60-80k bill if the patient is in the hospital for 3,4 days; so go for at least 100k coverage.
The way I would look at it is, visitor medical insurance is a lot like auto insurance here. We all pay for auto insurance every few months, and we are very happy if there are no claims against that policy, right? Same thing with visitors insurance too -- buy good coverage, and be happy if you didn't have to use it. That's a small price we have to pay for the pleasure of having our parents around. :-)
So always go for comprehensive plans even though they are more expensive if the parents have any kind of health issues (given their age, who wouldn't !?). Comprehensive plans do not have daily limits - you are only limited by the policy maximum. You are looking at at least 60-80k bill if the patient is in the hospital for 3,4 days; so go for at least 100k coverage.
The way I would look at it is, visitor medical insurance is a lot like auto insurance here. We all pay for auto insurance every few months, and we are very happy if there are no claims against that policy, right? Same thing with visitors insurance too -- buy good coverage, and be happy if you didn't have to use it. That's a small price we have to pay for the pleasure of having our parents around. :-)
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Bokke
06-05 11:49 AM
haha. yeah, it asks for a username and pas when you go to this page now
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he he sorry its fixed :P
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qasleuth
05-14 12:08 PM
Finally, Thank you for your smart and intelligent attempt to dilute the members' focus. First you start off by saying that we have no allegiance to our home land and finally you deduce that country caps are OK.
Inference: You are some psycho who is concerned that the glass ceiling of country caps in employment based system will be shattered sooner or later.
I strongly disagree. He is no psycho, just a juvenile displaying 4th grade logic to exhort the masses. Comes back and 'moderates' his thread by 'channeling', thanking and asking for more brilliant ideas.
nitinboston, do not brush this off as some kind of personal attack and you have bigger fish to fry...I urge you to read and reflect.
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Comes as a surprise to your fellow elementary schoolers ? Who are you to generalize ? That is what your immediate buddies or people YOU associate may be thinking.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
Thanks for the breaking news !
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing
Does your friend or his wife know what kind of a backstabbing 'best and brightest' you are ? Just because your so called friend's wife got a job cheating (if I take your word for it), it does not give you the right to brush the whole category with the same color. Who are you trying to impress by pissing on everybody ?
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Again, thanks for the breaking news and brilliant suggestions. First off, stop generalizing and look beyond your pathetic 'immediate circle'. AND here is some breaking news for you: You have not seen it all, as I can clearly see by the quality of your arguments. Don't come onto a forum, hide behind the curtain of anonymity and shoot your mouth off giving 'plain' 'straight from your heart' BS.
Inference: You are some psycho who is concerned that the glass ceiling of country caps in employment based system will be shattered sooner or later.
I strongly disagree. He is no psycho, just a juvenile displaying 4th grade logic to exhort the masses. Comes back and 'moderates' his thread by 'channeling', thanking and asking for more brilliant ideas.
nitinboston, do not brush this off as some kind of personal attack and you have bigger fish to fry...I urge you to read and reflect.
This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.
Comes as a surprise to your fellow elementary schoolers ? Who are you to generalize ? That is what your immediate buddies or people YOU associate may be thinking.
Few points:
1) having gc is a privilege not a right.
2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.
Thanks for the breaking news !
4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing
Does your friend or his wife know what kind of a backstabbing 'best and brightest' you are ? Just because your so called friend's wife got a job cheating (if I take your word for it), it does not give you the right to brush the whole category with the same color. Who are you trying to impress by pissing on everybody ?
5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.
Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.
Again, thanks for the breaking news and brilliant suggestions. First off, stop generalizing and look beyond your pathetic 'immediate circle'. AND here is some breaking news for you: You have not seen it all, as I can clearly see by the quality of your arguments. Don't come onto a forum, hide behind the curtain of anonymity and shoot your mouth off giving 'plain' 'straight from your heart' BS.
smartboy75
10-01 02:20 PM
I have the same update on 09/30/2007......
hey wawa / prince7
I sent you a private message ...kindly respond...
hey wawa / prince7
I sent you a private message ...kindly respond...
mirage
03-10 11:10 PM
Why do you bring Malice with you, everywhere, seriosly how does your family stand you ?
I have seen your posts earlier, they are full of abuses, unjust full of most useless comments, let me tell you one thing, it is a very well known truth people who are most abusive on cyber space, are most fattoo & have been beaten up kind of people because they spend their life in threat but on cyberspace they become Lion. You are a typical Cyber Sher... But in real life I can guess....Who told you that, a tweety bird???? you "I just thought" idiot.
I have seen your posts earlier, they are full of abuses, unjust full of most useless comments, let me tell you one thing, it is a very well known truth people who are most abusive on cyber space, are most fattoo & have been beaten up kind of people because they spend their life in threat but on cyberspace they become Lion. You are a typical Cyber Sher... But in real life I can guess....Who told you that, a tweety bird???? you "I just thought" idiot.
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